Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Week Three Response - Comment Under This Post

Reminders:
Wednesday, Midnight Deadline
250 word limit.

See the Comment Format & Sample Below

ABC Active Reading
A Title - Jot down two or three titles that come to mind as you study, then select the best oneor make a composite of them.
Basic Passage – Choose the passage, sentence or lines (no more than three) which include thecentral meaning or is the key to the contents of the passage. This passage should connect withthe title.

Correlate - Write out the passage in your own words, that is, paraphrase. Then write outhow the passage, sentence or lines apply to you, to someone you know, to a group or to society.
Here are some questions that might help you. See what connections you can make and explore:

Are there any passages in the reading that you, because of your life experience, are especially able to understand and appreciate? Write about one of those passages and show how it relates to your experience.

Have you experienced or witnessed anything that the character or persona doesn’t take into account? Write about one or more of those events, and tell how to change the character’s knowledge to take them into account.

Choose a passage from the reading, and tell what it helps explain about an experience you have known. After you have said as much as you can, consider this: does the passage exhaust the meaning of the experience, account for the experience you have in mind?

Would a person who accepted this character’s ideas choose the same paths in life that you have chosen or that you have seen others choose? How would the ideas for this reading alter your life or the life of someone you know well?

Are the writer’s or character’s ideas useful to a person in certain lifestyle or profession? What difference would these ideas make for someone living that lifestyle or practicing that profession?




Use the following headings in your response:
· A Title
· Basic Passage
· Correlate



Sample Response



On Death and Beauty
No reading does a better job of conveying the war experience than Tim O’Brien’s How to Tell a True War Story. O’Brien tells of a man named Rat Kiley who has to write a letter to his best friend’s sister. The description given by Kiley to Lemon’s sister doesn’t match her perception of her brother prior to departing for Vietnam. Kiley tells her of Lemon’s practice of fishing with “a whole damn crate of hand grenades,” and of him having “steel balls.” One recollection of Lemon’s death describes him as being lifted up by the blast, like a beam of light. It’s quite a beautiful description, given the violent nature of what had taken place.
I’ve always been compelled by this literature of survival, literature about people thrown into extremeconditions that simultaneously conveys a beauty and violence. When Esquire published a special issue on survival in July of 2004, I snatched it up. The issue features articles with titles like, “Ten Tough Bastards,” and “Classic Survival.” It also featured an excerpt from Senator John McCain’s account of his five years as a POW of the Vietnam War. That too played to a kind of romanticized, beautified vision.
Hemingway’s description of death and his use of figurative language in “Snows of Kilimanjaro” also serve to romanticize war.
Basic Passage
Because, just then, death had come and rested its head on the foot of the cot andhe could smell its breath. [...] “Tell it to go away.” It did not go away but moved a littlecloser. “You’ve got a hell of a breath,” he told it. “You stinking bastard.”
Truman Capote, in a critique of Hemingway, attempted to pull the cover away from this romantic view of the war hero/survivalist by calling him a “queen…a man who he presumes “pretended to be a hearty, courageous person.” Capote challenges the image of heroism and war created by American culture.








Note: This response was written a few years ago, before the 300 word limit was imposed. It contains 250 words – still close to what you should produce weekly.
Also, note that most of the writer’s correlation is above the basic passage. The lesson: you can move parts around, just be sure every part is there: A title, Basic Passage, Correlation.

24 comments:

  1. The Perfect Society

    The reading that I have decided to blog on is Thomas More's story, Utopia, Book 2. In the story Utopia,which is commonly called no place after its actual definition, Thomas More dreamed of a perfect society that was comapred to England. In the book, Utopia's size was described as two hundred miles arcoss in the middle part where its widest part was. The sea near Utopia entered and spread into a bay. Utopia was sheltered from the wind by the nearby land and instead of having an uneasy bay it was described in the book as very quiet and relaxing. The inhabitants of Utopia were simply known as Utopians. The Utopians were forced to work on Utopia for their leader, Utopus, who named Utopia after his name. More also described that Utopia was not always called Utopia. It was previously named Abraxus and then Utopus invaded,coquered and renamed it. The story also mentioned that all the houses in Utopia were the same. Everything in Utopia seemed to be in uniform. I really enjoyed reading Utopia. It seems as though Thomas More dreamed of an uncorrupt society on the outside world. It could of been that Thomas More was angry at the actual world he was in and then imagined a fantasy world with a localized government. However, this society doesn't really come of as perfect. It seems as though the people are forced to work and it is a dictatorship instead of a democracy. This can almost be compared to communism and the rule of Fidel Castro in Cuba. It seems as though the society is very plain and that nothing stands outs. It seems as though everything and everyone is the same. What is so great about the world is that everyone is different and thats what makes it so much better. This totalitarian society could possibly be More's idea of a perfect society. If i could pick a basic passage about how everyting is the same i would have to say, "There are fifty-four cities on the island, all spacious and magnificient, identical in language, customs, institutions, and laws. Thomas More did a good job of explaining to the reader the conformity in the cities. He tried to identify with the audience how everything was seemingly the same and perfect. More wants us to escape reality and hear his personal opininon of a perfect society.

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  2. A.W. Faris

    No Place for Bokanovsky

    Upon examination Utopia, Book Two by Sir Thomas More, it becomes fairly obvious that the work is the genesis of a very popular form of fiction. Countless books about ideal societies have followed in its footsteps. I couldn’t help myself from thinking of Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World as I absorbed the ideas and notions that More was exploring. Granted, Huxley’s book is actually set in the future but the story describes a society which attempts perfection. Huxley and More both present societies where the natural breeding process for either man or beast is altered.
    Brave New World depicts a society where reproduction for human beings has been altered. The entire gestation of babies is controlled in Huxley’s fictitious world. Embryos are feed “blood surrogate” and are predestined and made to become members of a certain class (from the lowest, epsilon, all the way up to alpha). This is considered to be more suitable because as The D.H.C. Director notes in Brave New World “That is the secret of happiness and virtue- liking what you’ve got to do.”
    Basic Passage
    “…They breed an enormous number of chickens by a marvelous method. The farmers, not hens, hatch the eggs by keeping them in a warm place at an even temperature. As soon as they come out of the shell, the chicks recognize the humans, follow them around, and are devoted to them instead of their mothers.”


    This passage represents some of the radical ideas presented by More in this book. Just like the humans in Huxley’s book, the chickens are bred to certain specifications. Huxley’s children also were raised to love their position in life through the use of a process called “hypnopaedia.” This process involved planting subliminal message in infants while sleeping, to make them happy with themselves later in life.

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  3. The Root of All Evil

    Considering our present capitalist society’s obsession with the petty and mundane things in life plaguing us and constantly threatening our abilities to see each other as equal in this beautiful world that God has given to us, I will write briefly about money in its relation to Thomas More’s Utopia.

    Basic Passage:
    “In Utopia, where everything belongs to everybody, no one need fear that, so long as the public warehouses are filled, anyone will ever lack for anything he needs. For the distribution of goods is not niggardly; in Utopia no one is poor, the are no beggars, and though no one owns anything, everyone is rich.”

    Response:
    The idea of the communal society in Thomas More’s Utopia, is one of the most beautiful concepts ever considered. The very notion that this idea is conceivable should be proof that it is something to work towards when the majority of the world’s wealth is handed around and sat upon by a few piggish tyrants. Money is no more than a symbol of oppression. Every time we spend a dollar we should remind ourselves that we are oppressed. The entire concept of money is as ridiculous as asking to work for someone live in a ditch and eat gruel while they sit in their mansion reaping the benefits. Who would even consider this notion when the option is available to share, be together as one class of people, and work toward a common goal of a peaceful society?
    More's Vision, whether a satirical work of rhetoric or a revolutionary anti-government manifesto, is one that people should consider more seriously without letting the greed of capitalist society demonize it into that which they have made into a dirty word, communism.

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  4. Kill with Kindness

    In class, we discussed how Thomas More became extremely wrapped up in the anti-Protestant campaign against Luther.

    Basic Passage
    “I find that breed of men absolutely loathsome,” More wrote to his friend Erasmus; “I want to be as hateful to them as anyone can possibly be.”

    This sort of behavior is still present today. Why should we degrade ourselves into what our enemies are? Then again of everyone believed in and followed the scripture John 15:12 in the Bible, “This is my commandment, that ye love one another as I have loved you,” then we wouldn’t have enemies. I like the old saying “Kill with Kindness” because in my opinion it’s proven to be true. When you are honest, show integrity and class, and speak with gentler, kind words the other person(s) struggles to debate you. They are baffled by your kindness and have nothing more to do than to walk away or risk showing their stupidity by speaking against you, thus the argument is killed with kindness. Proverbs 15:1 quotes, “A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.” As a Christian as well as from my own personal experiences, I believe these words are true. That doesn’t mean that I follow them at all times, but I try. No one is perfect.

    Thomas More had objections to Lutheranism and had received many attacks of his Latin works, but he decided to take on a new way of approaching the situation at hand. He targeted Luther less and concentrated more on using wit and dialect to dissuade the English from the beliefs of Protestantism. Of course, he ended up being killed over his beliefs, but at least he died with a little bit of dignity.

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  5. Has Religion Changed?

    Basic Passage: John Calvin(pg 626)
    "...the curiousness of men is the cause: which can by no stops be refrained from wandering into forbidden compasses, and climbing up on high; which, if it may, will leave to God no secret which it will not search and turn over."

    Response:
    I believe that Calvin’s idea is still prevalent in the modern religion. You find that many Christian people throughout time stick to the belief that ignorance is bliss. They believe that you can know too much and by that knowledge you can harm yourself. It is evident today in the way the Harry Potter Series and the Golden Compass novel are preached against in churches across the United States. Preachers state that it is wrong to read these or to expose your children to them because of their un-Godly content and values. But are the preachers really doing their congregations a service or are they really just setting them up for failure? These views are not just evident in our time but were also present in Calvin’s. Many churches in old England spoke out against the Moors because of the way that they lived. The Moors were a very clean and healthy people but according to the English church they achieved these things in un-Godly ways. The Moors were able to be skilled healers by learning the ways of the human body. This meant that they preformed autopsies and studied bacteria. The English church deemed this the work of the devil and, therefore, condemned their followers to death and disease because of ignorance. I do not believe that many of the churches of today have really strayed too far away from Calvin’s doctrine because of the way that they still arm their congregation with ignorance instead of knowledge.

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  6. Capitalist Pig

    Basic Passage: "Thus I am wholly convinced that unless private property is entirely done away with, there can be no fair or just distribution of goods, nor can the business of mortals be happily conducted."

    Response: When I say the word “capitalism”, what comes to mind? It seems that today the idea of capitalism is a bad thing; it creates inequality and class divides that are growing deeper every day. Capitalism, defined as an economic system characterized by private ownership of capital and a free business market, has been attacked by socialists for decades. Socialism, defined as economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production of goods, is attacked by capitalists more than often. The idea of More’s “utopia” is what sparked Karl Marx to write the Communist Manifesto. A utopia will never work if it is based on More or Marx. In a socialist utopia, if one looks at its history, nations are actually destroyed from within. It is not possible to create a society where everyone is equal AND the quality of life is up to par with capitalism (that is unless people are forced to produce). Sure, everyone can live in their own little house with their own little yard and work their own little job. But the truth is, who wants to be poor like everyone else? And on top of that, the economy will crash. If everyone makes the same amount of money as everyone else, why work? Why try to create a vaccine for HIV/AIDS when the inventor will not be given any great reward? Competition is what makes humanity better and the quality of life much better. America is still the greatest nation on earth, where our poorest citizens are still living a million times better than citizens of third world (and socialist) nations. Find out how great socialism is and move to Cuba.

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  7. The Tribal Dilemma

    A Basic Passage:

    Due to blogger.com blocking the embedding of any videos, please click on this link below to watch the short clip.

    Morgan Freeman speaks on Black History Month (55secs)

    The Correlation

    When we think of humanity across the world today, the word “tribal” is not usually applied. I use the word “tribal” here because it is our natural instinct to feel a unique connection to those people we find similar to ourselves. What Morgan Freeman is trying to say is that to have the entire history of a tribe boiled down to a four week long formality is asinine. Understandably, it is there to serve as a reminder of the toils and triumphs of black people. I can see the warrant in trying to commend a people for their storied history, but is this custom helping advance black people further or is it just a reminder of the ignorance of a time long ago?
    When Freeman says “...black history is American history,” he unleashes a bomb of truth upon the reporter. When you celebrate black history month, you are not only whittling down a vast storied history of an entire people to a few weeks but you are making it a completely isolated event. The truth is that people from all tribes have helped to develop this country into the great nation it is today and each tribe has underwent its own trials and tribulations. Isolating the black culture only exacerbates things and creates an idea that black people are different from other people. The truth is that no matter what tribe we are from, we are all just human beings that deserve respect. Now that is just good humanity.

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  8. Connie Land

    Who’s the Real Authority?

    Basic Passage:
    William Tyndale – Having become convinced that salvation depended upon direct access to the word of God, he (Tyndale) sought support to undertake a translation of the Bible into English, but English church authorities, concerned about the spread of heresies, blocked this project.

    Response:
    Is there any way of knowing what the absolute true translation of the Bible is? Your interpretations of the scripture can greatly differ from the person sitting next to you in church as well as that of the priest bringing you the scripture. In 2 Peter 2:1 it states “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” In this scripture it is written that there will be people among us that are there to deceive us. The issue of interpreting religion and what God wants is that people interpret/translate differently. Perception and interpretation are what shape a persons religion and beliefs. The Roman Catholics believed that the authority on the Bible was the church/priest thus trying to keep the Bible in Latin.
    Referring back to 2 Peter 1:19-21 “We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation: for the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” This being said, I believe that in order to properly understand the scripture of the Bible, one must read and interpret it for him/herself.

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  9. On Being an Example of Christ

    Basic Passage

    (Thomas More) also extended to active persecution of those defined as heretics. “I find that breed of man absolutely loathsome,” More wrote to his friend Erasmus; “I want to be as hateful to them as anyone can possibly be.”


    Correlation

    Even though there are several interpretations and views regarding Christianity and the Scripture, almost everyone knows the verse John 3:16, which declares that God loved us so much that he sent his son to die for us. All people in this world expect this love to be shown through people that are calling themselves Christians. Thomas More wanted to be as hateful to heretics as he could possibly be, as if he was over and at a higher point than them. Today, many “Christians” show much anger towards others rather than witnessing through Christ’s love.
    I have to constantly watch my attitude and actions toward others because my life should imitate, and be like a reflection in a mirror, of Christ’s love. “… He was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace…” (Isaiah 53:5). What kind of witness would I be toward others if I only thought of myself, when Christ had so much love that He died for us when we didn’t deserve it. “But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ…” (Ephesians 2:4-5) There are many interpretations of different words, but I’m sure most people can agree that the word “dead” would mean being unable to do anything. I could not do anything about my sin if Christ had not died. Therefore, I must show this same love toward others.

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  10. No Place

    Basic: "These houses are inhabited by citizens who come to the country by turns to occupy them. No rural house has fewer than forty men and women in it, besides two slaves."

    Response: The meaning of utopia is well earned. There is no place as a utopia and there never will be. In Thomas More's book he even cant make up a complete utopia. In his world there are slaves, but how can you have a perfect place if not everyone is treated equally? To have a true utopia there cant be slaves. Also Thomas More writes, "Over every thirty households is placed a single phylarch." A phylarch is a ruler. This adds on to the topic of equality. If there are rulers then not everybody is equal. There are the rulers, the rest of the people in the house and then the lowest people, the slaves. More also talks about how the utopia defends itself from foreign invaders. If this civilization was a true utopia wouldn't the citizens be at peace with everyone? Another reason there can never be a utopia is because of greed. People have to agree to be equal to everyone which is impossible. There is always going to be that group of people who want to be better than everyone else. More doesn't seem to take this into account. With greed people wont want to work for the good of others, they will want something in return for what they have done.
    For these reasons there will never be a utopia.

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  11. Utopia… Not Possible

    Response:
    The Idea of an Utopia has been an idealistic idea that has been yearned for and revisited throughout history. Ever since More originally created the term, it has been something that has been both criticized and praised. Surely an idealized and perfect society is something that deserved attention and looking into. In a world covered in unhappiness, war, poverty and famine it is always nice to think about a better world. Also, the way that More presents Utopia makes it seem so obtainable. There are two main reasons why Utopia could be a prosperous. For one, its citizens were completely content with their situation. They had no desire to obtain more land, wealth, or power. Secondly, They all worked equally. No man stood on the sidelines.

    Basic Passage:
    “No city wants to enlarge its boundaries, for the inhabitants consider themselves good tenants rather than landlord…. This custom of alternating farm workers is solemnly established so that no one will have to do such hard work unwillingly for more than two years…”

    Response:
    It is precisely because of these two factors that the Utopian society prospered, and why societies modeled after it have failed. The Communist ideals have often been looked upon as evil, and a controlling iron fist. While I by no means consider myself a Communist, I can appreciate their original ideals… such as communal sharing and equality. Unfortunately while these ideals are noteworthy, the common nature of man is to be greedy selfish bastards. This being the case, a Utopian society cannot possibly function until the character of man as a whole has drastically changed.

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  12. Forgive Me For Thinking For Myself

    Basic Passage: “That the entreating of predestination, whereas of itself it is somewhat cumbersome, is made very doubtful, yea, and dangerous, the curiousness of men is the cause: which can by no stops be refrained from wandering into forbidden compasses, and climbing up on high; which, if it may, will leave to God no secret which it will not search and turn over.”
    -From The Institution of Christian Religion by John Calvin

    Response: John Calvin gives a clear warning that we are not to question God in any aspect. He is so brazen as to refer to such behavior as being “dangerous.” Simply reading the most basic stories in the Bible one can understand where Calvin’s fear comes from. Anytime someone gets out of line or follows a path other than what God has ordered they are severely punished. From the very beginning in the Garden of Eden all the way to Revelation God uses the theme of chastisement in order to express the severity of adhering to what he commands. God intended for us to fear him to an extent. However, to imply that God does not want us to think for ourselves is foolish. He created us, so he understands our nature more so than we will ever be capable of. It is that nature that causes us to think for ourselves and not accept things just because we are told to. I personally do not believe that God expects us to walk around like brain washed zombies. Calvin’s ideology is still very prevalent in Christian teachings today. For instance, when The Golden Compass and The Da Vinci Code were released in theaters there was a large uproar in the Christian community. True enough, these movies are extremely contradictive of the Bible. Nonetheless, I personally believe that investigating everything, not just what we are taught on Sundays, is the best route to becoming a stronger Christian. If exploring God and Christianity in an attempt to grow closer to him is wrong then may you all pray for my soul.

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  13. Resources and Money in Utopia
    Thomas Moore’s account of the fictional land of Utopia has been repeatedly attempted throughout history. However, no one has ever been able to produce such a government that could function quite this way. Everything about how Utopia functions is dependant on the ability that it produces more essentials that it needs. Although many countries at different times could claim that they have more than they need, but they never do so in quite the way Utopia does.
    “Suppose … that all the workers in useless trades were put to useful ones, and that all the idles (who now guzzle twice as much as the workingmen who make what they consume) were assigned to productive tasks—well, you can easily see how little time would be enough and more than enough to produce all the goods that human needs and conveniences require.”
    Even in a system that has no money, it must still follow the natural laws of economics. As supply goes up, value goes down. What Utopia is able to do is put its entire population to work producing essential goods only, so that the supply is greater than what is needed, and value drops to absolutely zero. With every essential being effectively free, there is no need for money. If it were not for this effect, Utopia wouldn’t be able to sustain itself. Just like how advanced civilizations in the Star Trek universe don’t use money because they have replicator technology to reassemble the molecules of any matter into anything else they need.
    In the United States, people are free to pursue any career they want, even those that Moore describes as “useless” It’s not that freedom of profession is a drain in itself, but not every career is helpful to society as a whole. Capitalism is based around the concept of money, but in the pursuit of happiness, we tend to lose sight of the real needs of ourselves and others.

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  14. Taking Luther a Step further

    Basic Passage:

    “More had two principal objections to Lutheranism: 1) he objected to Luther’s denial that Christians could contribute toward their own salvation through their good works; and (2) he objected to Luther’s account of biblical interpretation. For Luther, Scripture preceded and ideally determined the form of the Church; for More, the Church preceded and determined the interpretation of Scripture.”

    Correlation:

    After reading the book "Amish Country" which gives the history of the Amish people, it brings up the questions: Is this really what Luther had in mind? And what would’ve More said about this group, based on his feelings over Lutheranism?

    There was a third group of reformers during the Reformation in Europe. Their beliefs paralleled Luther’s except this group was more radical. The Anabaptists believed that baptism was only for adults who stated their faith and promoted separation of Church and state. They were later known as the Mennonites. There was another split 150 years after this to form the Amish. This group split because it was felt that the Mennonite Church was too casual about church discipline. The main compliant had to do with social avoidance of those who had been expelled from the church. See, the Amish are even stricter to the interpretation and literal meaning of the Bible. In the scripture I Corinthians 5:11 it tells not to be with a “fornicator, covetous, or an idolater.” The Amish have set their entire way of living around their interpretations of the Bible; their laws are extensions of these interpretations down to the style of their dress, house decorations and education.

    A recent example of how the Amish adhere so strictly to what the scriptures say is with the tragedy of the Amish School shooting; their own children had been hurt or killed and they still offered prayer to the gunman’s family because the scripture, “tells us to forgive.”

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  15. Bushmen of the Kalahari-: The Closest Thing to Utopia

    Last semester I took an anthropology class that studied different nomadic tribes around the world that survive by hunting and gathering techniques. Their way of life was the most intriguing and captivating culture I have ever been introduced to, but most importantly all the members of the group live in complete equality and satisfaction. The bushmen of the Kalahari have been referred to as the "Original Affluent Society".

    Basic Passage -From: Sir Thomas Moore's Utopia


    "Thus I am wholly convinced that unless private property is entirely done away with, there can be no fair or just distribution of goods, nor can the business of mortals by happily conducted. As long as private property remains, by far the largest and the best part of the human race will be oppressed by a heavy and inescapable burden of cares and anxieties. "- "if you had seen them you would confess that you had never seen a people so well governed as they are."

    Response-Correlation

    I felt that this passage could of been a description of the bushmen's culture. This small grouop of people in this nomadic tribe live in a perfectly equal community where every member's needs are met to the exact same degree. The best explanation for their harmonious lifestyle centers around the fact that they are a small nomadic tribe. Because they constantly move in search of food and water, no one person can aquire many possessions everyone has the bare essentials that are easily transported. They live in such a blissful state of equality their language does not include a word for cheif or leader, and their females are regarded with as much respect as the males. Their is no monetary exchange of any sort, everyone shares food, and supplies equally. They also have a system of degrading 'those who think too highly of themselves', so no one person is ever above another. They work on average 15 hours per week which gives them alot of time to bond with their families and visit one another, which makes their life more leisurely than the majority of the world population. In my opinion this society could teach us alot about real equality and true community.

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  16. Book of Conflict


    passage: “For Luther, Scripture preceded and ideally determined the form of the Church; for More, the Church preceded and determined the interpretation of Scripture.”


    Response: Thomas More argues with Luther on the interpretation of the bible but every man has his or her own interpretation of what the passages in the Bible mean to them. So if every person interprets the bible to their own life, how can the Church accurately dictate to people as to how they should believe? From what I know different religions have formed because of the different interpretations of the Bible. The Jewish religion is based solely on the Old Testament of the Bible while the Christians include the Old and the New Testament within their teachings. Some believe that the Bible is nothing more than “stories” which are to teach us right from wrong, while others believe in each word of the Bible literally.

    Every person has his or her own interpretation when they read the Bible, Because of this, in fact, each person would have their own “personalized religion”. On a personal note, I believe that each person has to decide for themselves, what the Bible is saying to them and how it applies to their life.

    The problem with religions is that many wars have been fought and many lives have been lost because of the difference in the interpretation of the Bible, which in my opinion negates the purpose of the Bible in the first place.

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  17. The Word Hate

    Response: The bible can be viewed in many different ways. The world is at war all over the place right now over the interpretation of the bible, and hating each other. The word hate is one word that God does not like. Why do people walk around in society today with such hate? People hate others just because of their looks. What has the world come to with all this violence and hatred? There are even people out there that hate others that they have never even met or better yet even had a conversation with. Hate is brought up today in many people’s conversations. In the bible it says that one shall love not hate. More is trying to be a good Christian, well how he is doing this when he is talking about hating people. One of the main problems is all the different translations of the bible, and everyone thinking they are right.

    Basic Passage: “I find that breed of men absolutely loathsome,” More wrote to his friend Erasmus; “I want to be as hateful to them as anyone can possibly be.”

    Thomas More thinks that the catholic faith is the only way to be and if you are not catholic then you should go to hell. Well I disagree with this completely, who are we to even say what religion is right and which one is wrong. I mean we think that other people are wrong while outs if right. God is the only person who really knows what religion is right and what interpretation is right, and until he tells us we need to stop all the hating that we do on a daily basis.

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  18. Lindsay

    Conflict in Faith? The Bible..Then and Now..

    Passage: "When, in the late 1520s, the Catholic authorities of England tried to burn all copies of William Tyndales English translation of the New Testament, they were attemping to stop the spread of what they wiewed as a dangerous new plague of heresies. The plague was the Protestant Reformation, a movement opposed to crucial aspects of both the belief sysytem and the institutional structure of Roman Catholicism."

    Response: In the 1500s, the conflict of Roman Catholicism was that before Tyndale's first translations of the Bible only priests were able to read it because one had to be able to speak latin. Tyndale was a visionary hero of Christianity. A remarkable translation of the New Testament. Though there would be further opposition to come People back then wanted to order the printing of the Bible to hault, because they thought there would become too many versions which would only cause chaos. But the queation is really..would it truly only cause chaos or diversity in interpretations of understanding th Bible?
    A proper understanding of the Bible usually depended on two things which was the illuminating work of the Holy Spirit, and the interpreting work of the reader. "Protestant insistence that true belief must be based on the Holy Scriptures alone made the translation and dissemination of the Bible in English and other vernacular languages a matter of urgency." And before the reformation the Roman Catholic churchdid not oppose vernacular translations of the Bible, just preferred they encounter the scriptures through priests. Protestants simply just set out to put the Bible in the hands of Laity.
    In my opinion I do do believe that the different versions of the Bible cause chaos simply because there is more than one type of religion. Different religions have different beliefs, which could easier classified as diversity than chaotic.

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  19. Really a Utopia?

    Basic Passage: "The streets are conveniently laid out for use by vehicles and for protection from the wind..." “The streets are twenty feet wide. Behind each row of houses at the center of every block and extending the full length of the street there are large gardens. Every house has a door to the street and another to the garden."

    Response: As we mentioned in class Utopia is obviously very square in shape and quite organized, quite unlike Mobile. Whoever came up with the layout of the city thought of literally everything before building it, they even thought to protect the citizens from the wind. It seems like everything being the same would be so monotonous that people would want to see new and different things. In Utopia you are supposed to love your garden and the work that goes with it. Again, it seems that people would have different like and dislikes. Everything about the city seems to be perfect yet boring. If Mobile had the exact same street sizes, the same houses with the same doors that open to the same place, society would be completely different than what it is now. There is always someone that wants to see more, and because of that someone that wants to see more we have inventions and new and exciting things. In Utopia there is no one that wants to see more and invent things because they are given everything and not expected to want more. With all of the same things all of the time, this Utopia seem to not be quite the utopia Sir Thomas Moore described.

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  20. Courtney Wilkins:

    Evolving Beyond Money

    Basic Passage:
    Although most of the class has borrowed passages and ideas from Utopia and things within our text, I decided to go a different route and respond to a topic and question discussed by professor Alford:

    "Why do we as humans use our system of paper money?"

    Response:
    One of the best answers within my knowledge is that humans are not advanced enough. Our technology is at its peek, but what if we are not looking at the bigger picture. This is only the beginning. We need to progress physically, mentally, and emotionally to become a truly advanced society. We absolutely can not at this point in evolution drop our system of money. Humans have built a society of class systems, one of the major reasons we belong to these classes is the amount of money we own. We separate ourselves from one another through different means. One of these is physically. We see ourselves as different, therefore we are different. We need to able to advance to a place where we truly see with our eyes that we are equal. Another means of separation is our mental capacities. Every Tuesday night I go to 15 Place to feed the homeless. At 15 Place they separate the homeless into two main categories, the ones who are mentally able, and the ones not mentally able. If we want to be able to see ourselves as equal, we must also be able to think of ourselves as equal. In conclusion, to move past a money ran society, we must advance in other ways. Whether it be by evolution, through our own means and resources, or even by a higher power greater than ourselves, we may one day advance to a life without money, but probably not within our lifetimes.

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  21. Brittany Bryant

    More and Hate
    "I want to be as hateful to them as anyone can possibly be."
    Most of us can honestly say that we have hated someone at least once in our life. We're human, it's in our nature. However, if you're a christian how can you say that you "hate" someone when "God is Love." If you call yourself a christian how can you hate someone. Wouldn't you be a hipocrit?
    More thought he was in the right. He was a strong Catholic faith believer and anyone who disagreed with him was wrong. "I find that breed of men absolutely loathsome." He called the people who differ from him disgusting. What kind of christian are you if you bash people for who they are and what they believe? Not one God would want you to be.
    How in the hell can you sit here and tell me that i am wrong for what i believe in. Wouldn't that make you a "hater." Hate is a no-no word in church. You should love you neighbor, love yourself. Nowhere in the bible does it say: you should hate everyone who does not believe the same way you do.
    Now don't get me wrong i am a christian and i believe in God; but i dont go to church every Sunday and I don't pray everyday. Does that make me a bad person? I don't think so! We can not sit back and just talk about people for what they believe in. How many of you can honestly say that you talked to those people about why they believe in what they believe in? I have had many heated discussions about religion with many people. But now i just sit back and I believe i can only do as much as they will let me. Dont shove your religion down their throat because that will just start a new line of hate.
    If you hate me because of what i believe in, wouldn't God "hate" you for hating me?

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  22. Killing with Kindness

    Basic Passage:
    “I find that breed of men absolutely loathsome,” More wrote to his friend Erasmus; “I want to be as hateful to them as anyone can possibly be"

    Response:Behavior like this is still happening in today's society.People in today's time don't care about other people's feelings and it is a very sad thing.I feel that everyone should follow the scripture, Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. This scripture means many things. This is the way that everyone should live their lives. There is also a saying that says: Kill with kindness. This is a very true statement. When someone makes you mad or does something wrong to you, instead of getting back at them, one should just be as nice as one could possibly be. People are hateful to others for no reason.People need to also realize that they should treat others the way they would want to be treated. In the passage that I have chosen, I feel that the men involved are being cruel because they feel it is the thing that others want them to do. I feel that all of these sayings and the scripture are very true. I know that I try to live my life by these words and phrases. It is a very hard thing to do, but in the end up being the stronger and more mature in the situation.

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  23. Why Utopia Means “No Place”
    In Sir Thomas More’s Utopia, More describes the perfect society or place as one with grid-like cities completely congruent to one another, a place where having flashy material possessions such as silk clothes or diamonds are looked down upon, and where money has no power what so ever. In other words, More’s fantasy of this Utopia is merely a product of his time. In my passage, I will briefly state why Utopia truly does mean “No Place”.
    Basic Passage:
    “If they find them by chance, they polish them and adorn their younger children with them. As children they take pride and pleasure in such ornaments, and consequently put them aside when they are older and observe that only children use such baubles.”
    Response:
    There are many reasons why More’s thought of a utopia is unobtainable, but the most important is that it lacks perspective. To More, a place where if you are walking around and happen to randomly stumble upon a diamond, you give it to your children because it is a symbol of adolescence sounds completely backwards. If I were walking around and found a diamond, I would consider myself as one of the luckiest men in the world that day. Another reason is that not everyone has the same picture in their mind when someone asks them to imagine the perfect place. I’m pretty sure for a few men, such as myself, that place is just a bunch of beautiful supermodels, and endless supply of food, and maybe a nice house to kick back in. Anyways, who needs money and power when you can satisfy all your basic pleasures without having to work for it?

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  24. Title: Is God responsible for the Protestant Reformation?

    Basic Passage: pg. 616
    “When, in the late 1520s, the Catholic authorities of England tried to burn all copies of William Tyndale’s English translation of the New Testament, they were attempting to stop the spread of what they viewed as a dangerous new plague of heresies. The plague was the Protestant Reformation, a movement opposed to crucial aspects of both the belief system and the institutional structure of Roman Catholicism.”

    Also
    "Now the whole earth had one language and few words. And as men migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. And they said to one another, 'Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly.' And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. Then they said, 'Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.' And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the sons of men had built. And the LORD said, 'Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; and nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Come, let us go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.' So the LORD scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city.' Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of all the earth; and from there the LORD scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth." (Genesis 11:1-9)

    Correlation:

    God caused the division of the Catholic Church, and since he is omniscient, is responsible for bloodshed thereafter between the resulting denominations.
    According the scripture above, there was a time when humanity was unified by a common language and brotherhood which lent to them power so that from that time on “nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.” As such, for whatever reason, God “confused their language” so that they would cast aside their unity and spread throughout the world.
    Now, flash forward to the Protestant Revolution. According to the first passage, and as we discussed in class, language and translation had a heavy hand in the schism that took place in Christianity. Is the word translated as “love” or “charity?” Can scripture be interpreted literally, figuratively, or both? And how can a direct translation ever really occur anyways when language is fluid? As discussed in class, these questions led to many wars, persecution and life long fear for one’s “immortal soul.”
    Arguably, one could say the problems one witnesses between denominations, even today, arose from the language issues seen during the Protestant Revolution. So my argument is thus:

    1.) God “confused the language” of man.
    2.) The confusion of language caused the breakdown of Catholicism which resulted in centuries of feuding denominations.

    Conclusion) God caused the breakdown of Catholicism which resulted in the bloody feuding of Christian denominations.

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